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		<title>By: POSI+TIVE MAGAZINE &#62; Photography &#62; Young Photographer: Mike Bailey-Gates &#171; Digmoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>POSI+TIVE MAGAZINE &#62; Photography &#62; Young Photographer: Mike Bailey-Gates &#171; Digmoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.positive-magazine.com/photography/young-photographer-mike-bailey-gates/comment-page-1/#comment-2990</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate that; I never thought I had perfect technique or anything close to it, so I guess I&#039;m on the right track.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that; I never thought I had perfect technique or anything close to it, so I guess I&#8217;m on the right track.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.positive-magazine.com/photography/young-photographer-mike-bailey-gates/comment-page-1/#comment-2358</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but your photos are so incredibly boring. A flower here, a tree there. things we&#039;ve all seen a million times. perfect technique is so very boring and uncreative. why not think out of the box?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but your photos are so incredibly boring. A flower here, a tree there. things we&#8217;ve all seen a million times. perfect technique is so very boring and uncreative. why not think out of the box?</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.positive-magazine.com/photography/young-photographer-mike-bailey-gates/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: S, I&#039;d be interested to hear exactly why you find my photos (1500+ of them) to be devoid of artistic merit, but your comment is anonymous with no link... please feel free to comment here about that or get in touch with me personally (again, my contact info is linked from these comments).  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: S, I&#8217;d be interested to hear exactly why you find my photos (1500+ of them) to be devoid of artistic merit, but your comment is anonymous with no link&#8230; please feel free to comment here about that or get in touch with me personally (again, my contact info is linked from these comments).  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks folks, as I said I don&#039;t have work that is above criticism.  I do the best I know how with what I have.  I&#039;m welcome to any more specific criticism that&#039;ll help me, as I gave.  &quot;Very annoying&quot; is not really a valid criticism, unfortunately.  If you don&#039;t appreciate my style, well that&#039;s fine, that was my original critique anyway, I can live with that.  If anyone has any input that they&#039;re not willing to share in this public forum, my contact info can be found via the link I provide here; I&#039;d love to hear from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks folks, as I said I don&#8217;t have work that is above criticism.  I do the best I know how with what I have.  I&#8217;m welcome to any more specific criticism that&#8217;ll help me, as I gave.  &#8220;Very annoying&#8221; is not really a valid criticism, unfortunately.  If you don&#8217;t appreciate my style, well that&#8217;s fine, that was my original critique anyway, I can live with that.  If anyone has any input that they&#8217;re not willing to share in this public forum, my contact info can be found via the link I provide here; I&#8217;d love to hear from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Giacomo Cosua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giacomo Cosua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.positive-magazine.com/photography/young-photographer-mike-bailey-gates/comment-page-1/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B- you are very annoying. i looked at your flickr page and yeah, you may have good &quot;technique&quot; but you have no artistic ability whatsoever. i suggest you find another website to share your opinions because really they are not relevant here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B- you are very annoying. i looked at your flickr page and yeah, you may have good &#8220;technique&#8221; but you have no artistic ability whatsoever. i suggest you find another website to share your opinions because really they are not relevant here.</p>
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		<title>By: Giacomo Cosua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giacomo Cosua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your critic seems like the same one that was douring the &#039;800. The painters refused photography as art, now you are refusing digital retouching as art. This is the same.. but as we know in the &#039;900 the photography was aready accepted and diffused. And i don&#039;t think if that someone decide to keep on focus somethind different as a face they produce irony or other things.. it&#039;s just a personal way to see it.. you didn&#039;t get it. I&#039;m open always to costrucitve critics.. and if you post your critic you should be open to recive a critic too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your critic seems like the same one that was douring the &#8217;800. The painters refused photography as art, now you are refusing digital retouching as art. This is the same.. but as we know in the &#8217;900 the photography was aready accepted and diffused. And i don&#8217;t think if that someone decide to keep on focus somethind different as a face they produce irony or other things.. it&#8217;s just a personal way to see it.. you didn&#8217;t get it. I&#8217;m open always to costrucitve critics.. and if you post your critic you should be open to recive a critic too!</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s a valid question, and sorry if I sound overly critical.

In these cases, I think that the technique is overshadowing any message that the actual image may hold.  I don&#039;t see the technique as part of the final product, but &lt;i&gt;apart&lt;/i&gt; from it.  Changing the color tone of an image does not, to me, actually say anything.  And it&#039;s all too common for people to use these techniques as tricks to cover up substandard work.

Not that I&#039;m saying this is what&#039;s happening here but take the third photo, the profile portrait.  The subject&#039;s eye is out of focus, but her hair is in focus.  Maybe there is some irony I&#039;m missing here, but it looks like a pretty basic error.  The effects added afterward do distract from that, but once it&#039;s noticed, it feels like they were added only to do just that.  I feel like I&#039;m trying to be hoodwinked.

Then again, I&#039;m only one person, and it&#039;s not like I put material out there that&#039;s above criticism (far from, in fact).  And seeing these young photographers showcased is inspiring, simply because they show so much promise..  But I don&#039;t see much in these examples that&#039;s fresh or that shows a vision beyond &quot;it&#039;s cool when I do this in photoshop&quot;.  As always it&#039;s your blog, you post what you want, but putting these things in public also means you open yourself to being critiqued by that public.  If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t allow comments on posts or delete comments you don&#039;t appreciate.  In any case, I wish Mike the best, it seems like he&#039;s working on developing his vision which is the best any of us can do, and he has plenty of time ahead of him to do so.  I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll go on to make an impressive mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s a valid question, and sorry if I sound overly critical.</p>
<p>In these cases, I think that the technique is overshadowing any message that the actual image may hold.  I don&#8217;t see the technique as part of the final product, but <i>apart</i> from it.  Changing the color tone of an image does not, to me, actually say anything.  And it&#8217;s all too common for people to use these techniques as tricks to cover up substandard work.</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m saying this is what&#8217;s happening here but take the third photo, the profile portrait.  The subject&#8217;s eye is out of focus, but her hair is in focus.  Maybe there is some irony I&#8217;m missing here, but it looks like a pretty basic error.  The effects added afterward do distract from that, but once it&#8217;s noticed, it feels like they were added only to do just that.  I feel like I&#8217;m trying to be hoodwinked.</p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m only one person, and it&#8217;s not like I put material out there that&#8217;s above criticism (far from, in fact).  And seeing these young photographers showcased is inspiring, simply because they show so much promise..  But I don&#8217;t see much in these examples that&#8217;s fresh or that shows a vision beyond &#8220;it&#8217;s cool when I do this in photoshop&#8221;.  As always it&#8217;s your blog, you post what you want, but putting these things in public also means you open yourself to being critiqued by that public.  If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t allow comments on posts or delete comments you don&#8217;t appreciate.  In any case, I wish Mike the best, it seems like he&#8217;s working on developing his vision which is the best any of us can do, and he has plenty of time ahead of him to do so.  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll go on to make an impressive mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Giacomo Cosua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giacomo Cosua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this case, speaking about Mike&#039;s photos, we selected it because we think that the photos are good to show, and i like this kind of style also because it&#039;s not the first time that we look for this kind of photos.

You are always speaking about tecnique, but here we just look to the final image. I think if there are mistakes sometimes in much better than a &quot;perfect&quot; photos, but maybe without a soul. Maybe he liked this effect, and it&#039;s what we like too.. If you don&#039;t like this kind of style it&#039;s ok, but i can&#039;t understand when you comment those photos everytime with a tecnique-critic eye, and without looking to the final image and what he wanted to communicate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this case, speaking about Mike&#8217;s photos, we selected it because we think that the photos are good to show, and i like this kind of style also because it&#8217;s not the first time that we look for this kind of photos.</p>
<p>You are always speaking about tecnique, but here we just look to the final image. I think if there are mistakes sometimes in much better than a &#8220;perfect&#8221; photos, but maybe without a soul. Maybe he liked this effect, and it&#8217;s what we like too.. If you don&#8217;t like this kind of style it&#8217;s ok, but i can&#8217;t understand when you comment those photos everytime with a tecnique-critic eye, and without looking to the final image and what he wanted to communicate.</p>
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